Week 3
Welcome to week 3 of the Leaving Lockdown Public Debate.
On this page you can find the slides, recordings and transcripts for the third week, in case you want to remind yourself of what was said and discussed.
We will shortly also be adding the answers to the questions you asked in your break-out groups.
Just email the team on covid19deliberation@traverse.ltd if you get stuck.
Welcome to week 3 of the Leaving Lockdown Public Debate.
On this page you can find the slides, recordings and transcripts for the third week, in case you want to remind yourself of what was said and discussed.
We will shortly also be adding the answers to the questions you asked in your break-out groups.
Just email the team on covid19deliberation@traverse.ltd if you get stuck.
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The Isle of Wight
almost 4 years agoWe've heard that many of you are frustrated that there hasn't been more information about the trial of the contact tracing app on the Isle of Wight.
We'd like to create a set of clear questions about what the public want to know about this study.
Please add a question (or questions) below that you would like to see answered in the public domain about the trial of the app.
You cannot leave comment in this Idea unless you are a part of the project panel.
Teealmost 4 years agocontract tracing app
I will be particularly interested to find out how much data do we need to provide when setting up the account and start using the app. Do we only provide mobile numbers during the setup and all logs will be stored locally on the phone in an encrypted form? Once the data are collected regularly by the company, how is the expertise in public health or communicable disease going to make use of the data collected? Will the functionality of the 'contact tracing' app be suspended or subsided after the pandemic is over Last but not least, how are all the confidential data being stored or removed permanently?
1 comment1Peteralmost 4 years agoAre the continued app roll-out delays a result of the security exploits being found?
The UK (and France, Australia, Singapore, plus all other centralised contact-tracing apps) are based around the open-source OpenTrace app. A number of security flaws have been found in the way that this app uses low-energy Bluetooth (BLE) allowing a phone to be uniquely identified. The earliest of these bugs (CVE-2020-12857 and CVE-2020-12858) were patched mid-way through May, but the latest (CVE-2020-12859, CVE-2020-12860 and CVE-2020-12856) to my knowledge have not. Although information is understandably lacking at the moment, the CVE-2020-12856 bug is potentially the most egregious since it offers a way of uniquely identifying the phone even after the app is uninstalled or even after factory reset. My question is therefore: Is the roll-out delay (currently always 2 weeks into the future) a direct result of security exploits continually being found, and at what point will the government simply accept that an application it didn't write needs a good deal more time to adequately examine.
0 comment1sylviaalmost 4 years agocontact tracer is genuine or a scam
people have asked how can they tell if a contact tracer is genuine, our government spokesperson said " because they sound official " well that is patently an inadequate and patronising reply. Does anyone think this will ever get off the ground in its present form. People in the I of w trial were sort of expecting calls so maybe not so suspicious, but what about if it ever goes mainstream.
0 comment1Russellalmost 4 years agoThe mood
Do we know how the people of IOW are feeling about the app? If people were happy to go with it and try to save lives or have they voiced the concerns we’ve been flagging and pushed back?
0 comment0Stuartalmost 4 years agoData Used in App
From what I understand the app in UK will request names of people we have been in contact with etc if we have a positive test so very reliant on people naming their contacts etc whereas doesn't the IOW one use your contact lists and strangers on the app and notify them they've been near you so will cover more people as long as signed up for app. I just wondered is the difference because of results from the IOW test
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Documents
- Week 1 documents
- Week 2 documents
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Week 3
- Week 3 main slides.pptx (4.84 MB) (pptx)
- Leaving lockdown Week 3 plenary notes.pdf (288 KB) (pdf)
- Group A (week 3) .pdf (139 KB) (pdf)
- Group B (week 3) .pdf (270 KB) (pdf)
- Group C (week 3).pdf (348 KB) (pdf)
- Group A (wrap up).pdf (227 KB) (pdf)
- Group B (wrap up) .pdf (329 KB) (pdf)
- Group C (wrap up) .pdf (248 KB) (pdf)
Key Dates
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28 May 2020
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01 June 2020
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03 June 2020